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Sunday, 29 October 2023

Bernard Williams & genidentity

Genidentity is the notion that a thing which persists through time, or which is assumed to do so, in some sense generates itself from moment to moment.

 However, for any practical purpose, it is always possible to say that a thing's 'genidentity' is outsourced. or generated by some distributed process generated by cellular automata of some type. Like the Vienna Circle, the Berlin Circle could not find any 'ultimate fact of nature' corresponding to an 'atomic proposition'. This does not mean there might not be an 'Absolute Proof' at the 'end of Mathematical Time'. It just means that positivism of any sort is a pipe dream. Pragmatism is the first step to not bothering with Philosophy at all. 

Since Hume, the Anglophone sphere has always been sceptical of 'genidentity'. We understand that a work colleague or a guy we elect to Parliament may display a discontinuous saltation in identity- today our colleague sucks up to the Boss. Tomorrow he sides with those trying to get the Boss sacked. Today, our MP is against the war. Tomorrow he says any pacifist is a traitor to the country. 

Obviously, for the Oxbridge elite of the 'great and the good', such saltations were even more extreme. Today the guy who heads MI5 has an identity as a Red baiter. Tomorrow he is in Moscow, getting the highest award for which a KGB officer is eligible. 

Bernard Williams- who was married to a lady who was once on the left of the Labour party but who suddenly went so far to the Right as to quit Labour and join the SDP which merged with the Liberals and which ended up in a coalition with the Tories- gives the following thought experiment in a paper titled 'The Self and the Future'.  

SUPPOSE that there were some process to which two persons, A and By could be subjected as a result of which they might be said-question-beggingly-to have exchanged bodies.

Then we could never be sure that we have 'genidentity'- i.e. continuity through time. After all, this same process could be used to swop you out of your body while you sleep into one of a different gender and a different endocrine system such that when you are swopped back a few hours later your mind is different because your brain and limbic system has been bathed in different chemicals and been affected by different configurations of neurons. 

That is to say-less question-beggingly-there is a certain human body which is such that when previously we were confronted with it, we were confronted with person A, certain utterances coming from it were expressive of memories of the past experiences of A, certain movements of it partly constituted the actions of A and were taken as expressive of the character of A, and so forth; but now, after the process is completed, utterances coming from this body are expressive of what seem to be just those memories which previously we identified as memories of the past experiences of B, its movements partly constitute actions expressive of the character of B, and so forth; and conversely with the other body.

This does not fit with what we currently know about neurochemicals and neural nets and so forth.  

There are certain important philosophical limitations on how such imaginary cases are to be constructed, and how they are to be taken when constructed in various ways. I shall mention two principal limitations, not in order to pursue them further here, but precisely in order to get them out of the way. There are certain limitations, particularly with regard to character and mannerisms, to our ability to imagine such cases even in the most restricted sense of our being disposed to take the later performances of that body which was previously A's as expressive ofB's character; if the previous A and B were extremely unlike one another both physically and psychologically, and if, say, in addition, they were of different sex, there might be grave difficulties in reading B's dispositions in any possible performances of A's body. Let us forget this, and for the present purpose just take A and B as being sufficiently alike (however alike that has to be) for the difficulty not to arise; after the experiment, persons familiar with A and B are just overwhelmingly struck by the B-ish character of the doings associated with what was previously A's body, and conversely. Thus the feat of imagining an exchange of bodies is supposed possible in the most restricted sense.

In other words, we are merely speaking of some people saying this guy is like that other guy. But folks say the darndest things. I frequently accuse the neighbour's cat of having swopped bodies with President Biden. Sadly, it shows no inclination to swop back and so the Free World remains under the leadership of a pussy. 

But now there is a further limitation which has to be overcome if the feat is to be not merely possible in the most restricted sense but also is to have an outcome which, on serious reflection, we are prepared to describe as A and B having changed bodies-that is, an outcome where, confronted with what was previously A's body, we are prepared seriously to say that we are now confronted with B.

I am prepared to seriously say POTUS swopped bodies with a pussy. Indeed, I might even be prepared to say it in a preternaturally grave manner. But that doesn't make my claim any more true.  

It would seem a necessary condition of so doing that the utterances coming from that body be taken as genuinely expressive of memories of B's past.

Don't you hate it when utterances are fake expressive?  I mean a perfunctory 'miaow, miaow' doesn't really convey with sufficient seriousness and gravitas the proposition that the neighbour's cat hasn't swopped bodies with POTUS. 

But memory is a causal notion;

No. It is a cognitive notion. We know about 'confabulation' and will become increasingly subject to such false memories as we approach senile dementia.  

and as we actually use it, it seems a necessary condition on x's present knowledge of x's earlier experiences constituting memory of those experiences that the causal chain linking the experiences and the knowledge should not run outside x's body.

So, here again we find that Philosophy's 'thought experiments' are based on ignorance of developments in the natural sciences. 

Hence if utterances coming from a given body are to be taken as expressive of memories of the experiences of B, there should be some suitable causal link between the appropriate state of that body and the original happening of those experiences to B. One radical way of securing that condition in the imagined exchange case is to suppose, with Shoemaker that the brains of A and of B are transposed.

After the bodies were swopped to prevent organ rejection- right? I think this is what happened to Biden and my neighbour's cat. This doesn't change the fact that the POTUS is a pussy. 

We may not need so radical a condition. Thus suppose it were possible to extract information from a man's brain and store it in a device while his brain was repaired,

one way of extracting information is by talking to people. Brains get repaired during sleep. Sadly, if you had an alcoholic blackout you may need to have a lot of information replaced by in your brain by the desk serjeant or the public prosecutor or your ex on whose doorstep you threw up.  

or even renewed, the information then being replaced: it would seem exaggerated to insist that the resultant man could not possibly have the memories he had before the operation.

The truth, for many of us, is that we are highly suggestible. We can be made to remember things which didn't happen.  

With regard to our knowledge of our own past, we draw distinctions between merely recalling, being reminded, and learning again, and those distinctions correspond (roughly) to distinctions between no new input, partial new input, and total new input with regard to the information in question; and it seems clear that the information-parking case just imagined would not count as new input in the sense necessary and sufficient for "learning again."

Actually, memories firm up or get edited without our being conscious that there is new input. It may be that what we call memory is the repurposing of a database of smells. At any rate, what is certain is that we call memory isn't some Aristotelian database of experience which can be accessed in the way stuff on a hard-drive can be accessed. 

We imagine the following. The process considered above exists; two persons can enter some machine, let us say, and emerge changed in the appropriate ways. If A and B are the persons who enter, let us call the persons who emerge the A-body-person and the B-body-person: the A-body-person is that person (whoever it is) with whom I am confronted when, after the experiment, I am confronted with that body which previously was A's body-that is to say, that person who would naturally be taken for A by someone who just saw this person, was familiar with A's appearance before the experiment, and did not know about the happening of the experiment. A non-question-begging description of the experiment will leave it open which (if either) of the persons A and B the A-body-person is; the description of the experiment as "persons changing bodies" of course implies that the A-body-person is actually B. We take two persons A and B who are going to have the process carried out on them. (We can suppose, rather hazily, that they are willing for this to happen; to investigate at all closely at this stage why they might be willing or unwilling, what they would fear, and so forth, would anticipate some later issues.) We further announce that one of the two resultant persons, the A-body-person and the B-body-person, is going after the experiment to be given $ 100,000, while the other is going to be tortured. We then ask each A and B to choose which treatment should be dealt out to which of the persons who will emerge from the experiment, the choice to be made (if it can be) on selfish grounds. Suppose that A chooses that the B-body-person should get the pleasant treatment and the A-body-person the unpleasant treatment; and B chooses conversely (this might indicate that they thought that "changing bodies" was indeed a good description of the outcome). The experimenter cannot act in accordance with both these sets of preferences, those expressed by A and those expressed by B. Hence there is one clear sense in which A and B cannot both get what they want: namely, that if the experimenter, before the experiment, announces to A and B that he intends to carry out the alternative (for example), of treating the B-body-  person unpleasantly and the A-body-person pleasantly-then A can say rightly, "That's not the outcome I chose to happen," and B can say rightly, "That's just the outcome I chose to happen.'' So, evidently, A and B before the experiment can each come to know either that the outcome he chose will be that which will happen, or that the one he chose will not happen, and in that sense they can get or fail to get what they wanted. But is it also true that when the experimenter proceeds after the experiment to act in accordance with one of the preferences and not the other, then one of A and B will have got what he wanted, and the other not? There seems very good ground for saying so.

Fuck off! Suppose some nutter kidnaps you and ties you up and says 'I'm going to toss a coin. If it is heads, I will release you and make you rich. If it is tails I will torture and kill you. There is one proviso, to get released you have to say you freely chose to undergo this process.'

Would anybody in their right mind say that you had any choice or expressed any preferences? No! It is true that after you are released and get the money you may have a motive to deny you were kidnapped. You may say 'I voluntarily took part in a psychology experiment. It is not the case that I had no capacity to consent to what was in any case a repugnant, unconscionable and wholly illegal contract.  Thus I am entitled to the money though I would have no objection if you just beat that nutter to death.' A more sophisticated version of this story might reference 'Kavka's toxin' or Newcombe problems. 

The plain fact is, in Williams story, all people want to get money and don't want to be tortured. None has capacity to choose the body swap and though some desperate or irrational people may do so, still this provides no evidence about what they or anybody else believes about something which we currently believe to be impossible- viz. body swapping. 

For suppose the experimenter, having elicited A's and B's preference, says nothing to A and B about what he will do; conducts the experiment; and then, for example, gives the unpleasant treatment to the B-bodyperson and the pleasant treatment to the A-body-person. Then the B-body-person will not only complain of the unpleasant treatment as such, but will complain (since he has A's memories) that that was not the outcome he chose, since he chose that the B-bodyperson should be well treated; and since A made his choice in selfish spirit, he may add that he precisely chose in that way because he did not want the unpleasant things to happen to him. The A-body-person meanwhile will express satisfaction both at the receipt of the money and also at the fact that the experimenter has chosen to act in the way that he, B, so wisely chose. These facts make a strong case for

nothing at all. I distinctly remember your telling me to eat all the chocolate eclairs you bought to hand around at the office tomorrow. You distinctly remember telling me not to open the fridge because none of the food in there was bought by you. Why don't you get a fucking job you lazy sack of shit? I want a divorce.  

saying that the experimenter has brought it about that B did in the outcome get what he wanted and A did not. It is therefore a strong case for saying that the B-body-person really is A, and the A-body-person really is B; and therefore for saying that the process of the experiment really is that of changing bodies.

Why stop there? Why not say the Tichborne claimant really was a blue-blooded heir to a great fortune because he said he was? Why not believe that the Princess Anastasia hadn't been shot by the Bolsheviks because some crazy lady claimed to be that person? How about admitting that I really am Bill Gates and should have access to his Bank Accounts whereas Bill Gates is me and thus he, not me, is responsible for my alimony payments?  

...if I am appallingly subject to acrophobia, and am told that I shall find myself on top of a steep mountain in the near future, I shall to that extent be afraid; but if I am told that I shall be psychologically changed in the meantime in such a way as to rid me of my acrophobia (and as with the other prediction, I believe it), then I have no reason to be afraid of the predicted happening, or at least not the same reason. 

This is like a Newcombe problem or a Kavka Toxin. It may be that therapists say things of that sort to people with phobias. Imagine you are not scared of heights. Now think of yourself standing on the edge of a cliff. Imagine the delight you take in the sublimity of what you are able to gaze upon, secure and unafraid. 

Getting rid of phobias is one thing. Would such an approach also prevent cancer or your head being cut off by terrorists? 

Physical pain, however, the example which for simplicity (and not for any obsessional reason) I have taken, is absolutely minimally dependent on character or belief. No amount of change in my character or my beliefs would seem to affect substantially the nastiness of tortures applied to me; correspondingly, no degree of predicted change in my character and beliefs can unseat the fear of torture which, together with those changes, is predicted for me.

I don't understand this. Surely masochists gain pleasure from certain types of pain? It may also be that the great martyrs of the Church considered the tortures they were subjected to as a salutary purging of 'Original Sin' and gloried in their imminent entry into eternal Paradise.  

I am not at all suggesting that the only basis, or indeed the only rational basis, for fear in the face of these various predictions is how things will be relative to my psychological state in the eventual outcome.

Is it rational to fear something which doesn't yet exist? Why not take pleasure in the absence of that pain or misfortune? One may say one is not thrilled by a particular prospect- nobody wants to get old and physically and mentally feeble. Equally, is there any point to amplifying any pain you are suffering by fearing and loathing it?  

I am merely pointing out that this is one component; it is not the only one. For certainly one will fear and otherwise reject the changes themselves, or in very many cases one would. Thus one of the old paradoxes of hedonistic utilitarianism; if one had assurances that undergoing certain operations and being attached to a machine would provide one for the rest of one's existence with an unending sequence of delicious and varied experiences, one might very well reject the option, and react with fear if someone proposed to apply it compulsorily;

Perhaps because we know we can always find ways to turn every experience into a source of delight. After all, fear and pain and disgust are 'Darwinian algorithms of the mind' which have survival value. But once we note the information they seek to convey we may have enough mental plasticity to suppress them and to proceed rationally. True, this may take specialist training. My instinct is to run away from a fire. Perhaps, if I had joined the fire brigade my training would have enabled me to suppress this instinct and to heroically enter a burning building to rescue the occupants.  

In a sense, specialist training is about changing your identity and even your memories. In my memory, I have always been a weak willed coward. If I join the Army, it may be that my training causes me to identify as a member of a heroic regiment. I act as if it was always habitual for me to show valour and firmness of will. 

Williams concludes thus

 the principle that one's fears can extend to future pain whatever psychological changes precede it seems positively straightforward. Perhaps, indeed, it is not; but we need to be shown what is wrong with it.

Either pain exists for an evolutionary reason- in which case it is up to Williams to justify his assertion in terms of evolutionary game theory- or else nobody can show anybody what is wrong with their argument because maybe God put it into their head for some purpose it would be impious to inquire into.  

Until we are shown what is wrong with it, we should perhaps decide that if we were the person A then, if we were to decide selfishly, we should pass the pain to the B-body-person.

This says something about selfishness but it says nothing about the nature of the Self or its relationship with the Future. 

It would be risky: that there is room for the notion of a risk here is itself a major feature of the problem. 

Williams risked becoming a worthless tosser by going in for Philosophy rather than something useful. The major feature of the problems his Profession set itself were that they were stupid and childish. By contrast, when Kurt Lewin- whose work was useful and 'progressive'- came up with the notion of 'genidentity', he was reflecting on a fundamental problem facing young people- viz. what sorts of things they need to be doing now so as to become the sorts of people who didn't waste their lives. 

This is not to say that I find the notion intelligible. Sadly, Youth is a language that is unintelligible because its function is to encrypt Eden. The empiricist Anglo Saxon might have missed a trick or two known to the young German Romantic.

Tuesday, 24 October 2023

Was Bernard Williams as stupid as Derek Parfit?

If there were some privileged frame of reference or some 'ultimate fact of nature' which might undergird Lewin/Reichenbach 'genidentity, or if mathematics could have what Godel termed an 'Absolute Proof', then there may be some algorithmic way of generating all the truths of the world or, at the least, have some criteria of demarcation for 'naturality'. Sadly, developments in mathematical logic and things like Einstein's theory of relativity showed this to be a pipe dream. This meant that all morality can only be relative to specific situations. This is not to say that intuition regarding morality are themselves context dependent. They may be. They may not be. However deontic logic would have no non-arbitrary or canonical form. 

Daniel Calcutt writes in Aeon-

The acclaimed British philosopher Bernard Williams, writing in the 1970s, showed that a common way of arguing for moral relativism is confused and contradictory.

Sadly all ways of arguing are confused and contradictory. Don't do it unless you want to annoy the other party or are getting paid to do so.  

Nonetheless, he went on to defend a philosophical worldview that incorporated some of relativism’s underlying ideas. There is much to learn, when we think about the ongoing culture wars over moral values, from the encounters with relativism that recur throughout Williams’s work.

Culture wars are about bullying or harassing each other. The safest thing to do is to accuse your interlocutor of using black magic to control the Nicaraguan horcrux of your neighbour's cat which is ILLEGALLY surveilling you 

First, however, it’s useful to understand why a prevalent feature of the culture wars, arguing over which words to use, itself quickly leads to arguments over relativism.

 One way round this is to insist that everybody speak only Tamil. Every other language is complicit in genocide against Tamil peeps. 

Consider the following memorable scene in Sally Rooney’s novel Conversations with Friends (2017). The central character, Frances, who is sleeping with Bobbi, rejects her friend Philip’s insistence that ‘in basic vocabulary she is your girlfriend.’

Frances thinks of Bobbi as the lesbian equivalent of a cum-dumpster.  

Frances is right to resist Philip’s attempt to put a familiar label on things: she is trying to live in a way for which there aren’t words yet. Elsewhere in the book, Frances questions not only the word ‘couple’ but even the term ‘relationship’ to depict her life with Bobbi. If she isn’t sure how to describe her complicated situation, it’s in part because it doesn’t easily fit into the grids of conventional thought. She wants, to use an image from James Joyce, to ‘fly by’ the nets of language.

Lots of people don't want to admit their g.f is an ugly tart from the wrong side of the tracks. Also they told their parents they were dating a member of the Royal Family.  

The words your society uses, as Frances is highly aware, shape the self you can become.

Very true. This is why babies never grow up. You should address them as 'Uncle' or 'Aunty' not 'my sweet little baby'.  

Language is loaded with ethical expectations. If you agree that you are in a ‘couple’ with someone, for instance, then that commonly (though not always) carries with it the expectation that you will not be in bed with anyone else.

Which is why it is worth agreeing that is the case. Language is about the strategic manipulation of expectations. 

That norm can be challenged, and has been, by those who are in open relationships.

Norms are challenged by people saying they are shitty or hypocritical or the result of wanting to fuck your Mummy and kill your Daddy. The norm against farting at the dinner table is not challenged by my doing so. Indeed, you violate a norm of civilized conversation when you raise a hue and cry about it.  

However, if you are trying to live in a way that is new, and doesn’t fit into accustomed categories, then it’s likely that you will be misunderstood and deprived of social recognition.

Nonsense! If you marry a chicken and set up as a Tax Consultant to Guatemalan goats you aren't misunderstood at all. Society recognizes that you are a chicken fucker with a piss poor Accountancy practice. 

Even so, as the American philosopher Judith Butler has argued in Undoing Gender (2004), there are situations where it’s better to be unintelligible than to force oneself into the existing menu of social options.

The point about menus is that you get something by choosing from them. There is no point asking for a bowl of Bliss at the local Wagamama.  Being a chicken fucking tax consultant to goats doesn't open a lot of social opportunities you you. Nobody cares if a person nobody talks to is or isn't intelligible. 

If everyday language can sometimes feel oppressive,

Like when somebody comes up to you and says 'Hi! Could I have a double cheese burger?' and you shout 'Language is totes oppressing me! Fuck you Language!'  

it’s perhaps because it is inescapably descriptive and evaluative: it tells you not just how things are, but how they should be.

This can be useful. Language doesn't have to be about arguing or bullying. It can be informative and prescriptive in a useful manner.  

If you are someone’s ‘girlfriend’, for instance, then a vast number of beliefs kick into action about how you should behave.

Don't stab your girlfriend.  

This is why Frances is so wary about accepting the label.

She wants to keep that option open. 

Perhaps the clearest example of how language can be at once descriptive and value-loaded is in the case of what philosophers have come to call thick ethical concepts.

Philosophers are thick. That is true enough.  

Think of words such as ‘friendly’, ‘mean’, ‘aggressive’, ‘rude’, ‘impatient’, ‘brutal’ and so on, and notice how these terms evaluate behaviour positively or negatively at the same time as they describe it.

They are adjectives and qualify a noun- e.g. friendly cat as opposed 'mean cat which scratches your eyes out'.  

Thick ethical concepts are named by contrast with thin ethical concepts such as ‘right’ and ‘should’ and ‘ought’.

These aren't necessarily ethical concepts at all. They may be purely utilitarian or pragmatic. The computer should turn on if properly connected. It doesn't. There is something wrong with it. Yet computers have no inner ethos.  

These highly abstract terms are almost purely evaluative and don’t seem to describe any specific actions.

They may do. It depends on the context.  

Rather, as the American philosopher Christine Korsgaard has put it in The Sources of Normativity (1996), they seem like those gold stars used at school that can be stuck upon anything.

No they can't. You get in trouble if you stick them on the Headmistress's bum. That's the reason I had to give up teaching.  

The culture wars that take place over controversial moral questions are, in part, battles over which ethically loaded concepts should win out within a society.

Which concepts win does not matter. How people behave matters. But they may do so because of fear of punishment or hope for reward. This is an economic, not an ethical matter. Language is pure pragmatics. Semantics can be anything goes.  

Should sexuality be conceptualised in terms connected with sexual purity and restraint (‘sanctity’, ‘chastity’ and so on)

No. It should be conceptualised in terms of what is done with sexual organs. It is a different matter that Society may want to suppress some of the things which can be done with them. You are welcome to offer me your hand to shake. Your penis- not so much.  

or in terms of sexual self-expression and experimentation (‘liberation’, ‘kink’ and so on)?

Not to mention offering people your penis to shake.  

This brings home the fact that ethical words and concepts are not just abstract ideas:

they may be wholly abstract. We speak of beatitude or inner sanctity of the quality of being in the world but not of it.  

they are the product and expression of different ways of living.

or being. There may be such a thing as a 'pratyeka buddha' or 'jivanmukta' or 'lamed wufnik' or 'qutb' who justifies man to god. 

Seen this way, the political intensity surrounding what is sometimes disparaged as ‘arguments over words’ makes total sense.

We don't need to see things in any particular way to know that there are stupid bullies who like harassing others. As for holier than thou virtue signallers- that nuisance we shall always have with us.  

The culture wars are concept wars over how best to live.

No. They are wars between cliques in unimportant places- e.g. shitty University departments.  


We all use ethical concepts in the broad sense I have introduced. People who think that they can live without values are failing to think through what that would really mean.

But no great loss is incurred by this failure. I am welcome to say 'people who think they can live outside a Skorokhod space are failing to think through wat that would really mean'. The problem here is that people suspect that I'm too stupid to actually know what a cadlag function is. Also, I smell bad.  

But if we all, inevitably, evaluate our experience, we don’t all do so in the same way.

Only in the sense that we all inevitably evaluate a cadlag function. My way of doing so is by farting.  

In a recent podcast on the lessons from the Roman Empire, the historian Tom Holland stressed the dramatic contrast between the sexual mores of ancient Rome and those of the modern West.

which modern West? Most of us live in Cities where different people have vastly different sexual mores. However, lack of access to goats has indeed changed sexual mores for many.  

This is just one, perhaps already familiar, example of the commonplace fact that ethical norms vary across, as well as within, cultures. Moreover, even ethical concepts that are superficially shared can be understood in deeply different ways.

Unless it is more useful to have a 'Schelling focal' understanding. Thus the concept of 'prudence' is understood in a unique manner in the Accountancy profession. At least this was the case when I was young.  

Consider how respect is shown in a nod of the head: it can symbolise respect as a form of mutual recognition, or respect as deference to another’s superior strength.

Lots of people who are stronger than me and who think I'm an utter shithead will still nod to me- more particularly if they are blood relatives.  

The fact of moral diversity therefore raises the issue of moral relativism.

Facts should resolve issues, not raise them. Many religions and other ethical systems have a notion of exigent circumstances (apadh dharma in Sanskrit). It is obvious that different rules apply in different circumstances.  

This, too, has become a part of the culture wars, especially as these debates have played out in the United States.

Surely these are au fond political struggles?  

Many moral traditions are based on the idea that there are universal values, perhaps rooted in human nature. Perhaps you yourself were raised with the universalist idea that there is a single true morality that applies to everyone, everywhere. But if living many different ethical ways of life is natural to human beings, then this encourages the idea that humans create multiple ethical worlds, and that ethical truth is relative to the world in question.

No. It is enough to say that there is some innate 'synderesis' or intuition or 'voice of conscience' which enables you to pick the right rule to follow. True, you may misjudge the circumstances of the case. Still, maybe God will have mercy on your immortal soul. 

I can choose to watch a rom-com instead of an action movie. This does not mean I am creating different cinematic worlds. I am merely making a choice involving an opportunity cost. You may say 'by watching a rom-com you are entering a higher world of Lurve and Peas. You are rejecting violence and sexy shenanigans. Blessed art thou, for thou hast chosen the path of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman and rejected that of Bruce Willis in Die Hard.'  

Moral truth, like the truth about etiquette, simply varies from place to place. So far, so bad, for universalism.

Not really. There is a distinction between questions of law and questions of fact. Once all facts are known there may be a unique, non-arbitrary, 'universal solution' which all would accept. 


When battles over moral relativism have featured in the culture wars, they tend to be framed in the following way. One side of the argument celebrates cultural diversity and unites this with an emphasis on the socially constructed nature of values. This is the outlook popularly associated with postmodernism, identity politics, and the rejection of universalist tradition.

Alternatively, this is just the game theoretic insight that there are a range of evolutionarily stable strategies. This explains why a certain percentage of the population is likely to be homosexual. 

The Liberal bourgeoisie and intelligentsia may have few kids but spend a lot of money educating them. The ultra-orthodox may have a lot of kids and raise them in a very strict manner. The Liberals may not like this but they realize that the economy would collapse if the religious people stopped making a lot of babies.  

However, this seemingly ‘relativistic’ destination is precisely what alarms the moral conservative.

Not really. The conservative may say 'I only want this country, not any other, to follow its time honoured customs and traditions'.  

Hence the other side of the culture wars: if there is no common human standard upon which to ground moral universalism, then something beyond the human is needed.

But the same problem arises with a Divine Standard. God may want different nations to follow different laws.  

This is the side of the culture wars associated with the need to return to religion, and a morally reactionary response to social diversity.

But a diverse society can have a common religion.  

These debates about the sources of morality have become part of mainstream culture.

Not down my neck of the woods. Mainstream culture consists of watching pornhub videos on your smartphone while waiting for your pizza.  

The old-school secular humanist, faced with the difficulty of finding a universal basis for a human-centred morality, is presented with a dilemma: either choose a culture-centred ethics, or return to a God-centred one.

No. The 'secular humanist' doesn't have to turn to God because he would cease to be a humanist if he did. A culture-centred ethics is welcome to recognize that it owes much to a particular religion. There is no dilemma here.  

Call it the anti-Humanist Fork: relativism or religion?

A religion can be highly relativist- e.g. Hindu dharma which is different for different classes of people and which changes as you grow older. Similarly, relativism can be religious because of 'Kavka's toxin' or Newcombe type problems. Essentially, there are some situations where it is useful to have unquestioning Faith.  

Rowan Williams, the former Archbishop of Canterbury in the United Kingdom, recently stated in the New Statesman magazine that ‘The modern humanist is likely to be a far more passionate defender of cultural variety than their predecessors.’

Williams is wrong. He has never met me. No modern humanist is a passionate defender of the type of culture I incarnate. This is because our Society does not appreciate farting as an art form or mode of metaphysical inquiry.  

What he didn’t dwell upon is the following irony: that proper recognition of moral diversity has tended to undermine the universalism upon which humanism is typically founded.

Not to mention Hamas or ISIS turning up to behead you.  

It’s important to note that diversity of belief doesn’t by itself entail relativism.

Because it doesn't entail anything. Nothing does.  

After all, different cultures have held different beliefs about the shape of the Earth. Does it follow that there is no non-relative fact of the matter and that all we can say is that the Earth is truly round relative to one culture, and truly flat relative to another? If your friend said the Earth was flat, you would perhaps show them the photo known as ‘Blue Marble’, taken as the Apollo 17 crew made its way to the Moon in 1972. If you are wealthy and extravagant enough, you might book them on a trip to space. You are unlikely to ‘go relativist’.

You are even more unlikely to give two hoots about this question. On the other hand, back in 1968 diplomats in some Arab countries were advised not to mention the Moon landing as there was some apprehension that religious people might find the subject offensive. It is perfectly proper to act prudently and respect the shibboleths of your hosts- more particularly if they are in the habit of beheading blasphemers.  

Being a non-relativist about the shape of the Earth,

only matters if you teach Science or are required by your job to have exact information in that regard. 

however, doesn’t require you to be a non-relativist about everything.

Because nothing requires anything else.  

Moral relativism remains an option. As we have already seen, if you combine the idea that Human beings construct ethical reality with the claim that How humans construct ethical reality varies between cultures, then moral relativism becomes hard to avoid.

Both ideas are useless. It is merely a figure of speech to speak of 'ethical reality' as opposed to ethical virtuality and pretend the thing is constructed rather than farted out.  

Indeed, those who are quick to move from observing the diversity of moral beliefs to embracing moral relativism are perhaps already inclined to think that morality is a cultural construct whereas the shape of the Earth is not.

Morality is a construct only to the same extent that it is a wistful fart or a cat which has got stuck up a Smullyan Truth tree.  

Others are drawn to relativism about morality because they think it a wiser, more tolerant outlook. As someone might say: ‘They have their way, we have ours, and that’s all there is to be said.’

Judge not, lest ye be judged.  

Bernard Williams (no relation to Rowan) argued incisively against what he called ‘vulgar relativism’ in his first book, Morality (1972). A leading figure in English-language philosophy, he later popularised the term ‘thick concepts’ that I introduced earlier (he was the first to use the term in print, in 1985). Williams had a deep sense of the cultural and historical variety of ethical life. But he also saw that the typical way that moral relativism was taken to support toleration, notably by some anthropologists at the time, was fundamentally incoherent.

Williams was a living in a world which seemed to have turned topsy turvy. Perhaps if he had studied mathematics and turned to category theory he could have understood that what matters in unicity and naturality. Where these obtain there is a bridge from relativism to non-arbitrary agreement or consensus. 

The vulgar relativist, Williams says, thinks that whether something is ‘morally right’ means ‘right for a given society’.

Right according to a given set of buck-stopped protocols- sure. Nothing wrong in that. A contract may have a 'morals clause' and Courts may establish protocols in that respect.  

As a result, to discuss whether, say, sex with multiple partners is morally right, you must first ask: right for whom?

Why? It is a fact that under certain exigent circumstances, it is morally right for any given person.  

There is no universal answer: polyamory will be permitted, indeed celebrated, in some times and places,

so this is a question of law or custom 

and morally denounced in others. This is the insight that is supposed to lead to a tolerant outlook.

There is no insight here. One may have a tolerant outlook because one happens to be tolerant and easy going but this has nothing to do with some stupid argument made by a guy who teaches useless shite.  

Indeed, the vulgar relativist, as described by Williams, holds that, because morality is tied to a way of life, ‘it is wrong for people in one society to condemn, interfere with, etc, the values of another society.’

Why not condemn a way of life, even if it is only to be found in some far off place, if it is bound to result in famine or genocide?  What's so wrong with warning a youngster not to smoke because it will affect her health sooner or later?

The problem for vulgar relativism, as Williams goes on to show, is with the status of the principle of toleration. If it’s right to be tolerant, and ‘right’ is relative, then we must ask: right for whom?

Why must we do so? Will our head fall off if we don't?  

After all, if an aggressive warrior society is debating whether it should interfere with its neighbours, then according to its values the answer might be a definite ‘Yes, we should interfere.’

Not if such interference will lead to defeat and enslavement. Warriors have to weigh up the odds for or against victory.  

Perhaps, at least for a violent society, war is the answer.

It may be the answer for a peaceful society. Britain entered two world wars not in order to gain territory but because failure to do so would alter the balance of power and imperil its own independence.  

The point, as Williams makes clear, is that you can’t coherently say that All moral truth is relative to a culture and espouse a non-relative moral rule that all cultures should respect one another.

Sure one can. Respect others is a good thing. Chances are they will respect you in return and so mutually beneficial transactions will flourish. The fact that one thing does not logically entail another thing or that there are circumstances where they are incompossible doesn't mean that there isn't a concrete model for their conjunction.  

The vulgar relativist is putting forward toleration as a universal moral principle, but this is flat-out inconsistent with moral relativism itself.

No it isn't. Toleration as a principle can still be defeated by some higher principle- e.g. self-preservation.  

Vulgar relativism is ‘absurd’, Williams concluded,

Anything can be made to look absurd by taking it to extremes.  

but this can give a misleading impression: he took seriously many of the ideas that underpin moral relativism. In fact, he agrees with the moral relativist that ethical reality is a human construction,

In which case we can hire a builder to construct a nicer ethical reality for us- one where my farts are sweet smelling rainbows which bring delight to the angels.  

and, like the relativist, he emphasises the variety of moral outlooks. Some moral and religious traditions hold that moral reality is as objective and universal as facts about the shape of the Earth.

We can posit the existence of 'karma binding particles'. This is a materialistic meta-ethics.  

Williams certainly didn’t think this and went so far as to call his own moral position ‘nonobjectivist’.

It was nonsense. 


Perhaps Williams’s respect for the moral relativist’s motivations emerges most strikingly in the following passage from his middle-period book Ethics and the Limits of Philosophy (1985):
If you are conscious of nonobjectivity, should that not properly affect the way in which you see the application or extent of your ethical outlook?

I am conscious of having farted. Why should that consciousness properly affect anything in my ethical outlook? Williams is making an arbitrary stipulation. I may as easily say 'If you are conscious of nonobjectivity should you not eagerly seek out and devour dog turds'?  

… If we become conscious of ethical variation and of the kinds of explanation it may receive, it is incredible that this consciousness should just leave everything where it was and not affect our ethical thought itself.

Why? I became conscious that different languages have different words for Mummy when I was about 5 years old. This consciousness left everything where it was. My Mummy was still my Mummy. Other people had their own Mummies and spoke to them in different languages. So what?  

We can go on, no doubt, simply saying that we are right and everyone else is wrong (that is to say, on the nonobjectivist view, affirming our values and rejecting theirs), but if we have arrived at this stage of reflection, it seems a remarkably inadequate response.

But 'this stage of reflection' is stupid shit. It would be remarkable if it led to some useful thought or action.  

Williams argued for appropriate recognition of the cultural and historical location of one’s ethics

Because Shirley kept mistaking the cultural and historical location of his ethics for the shitter.  

and combined this with a shrewd sense of when moral assessment has a point and when it doesn’t.

Morally assessing chipmunks tends to be pointless. Williams was quite shrewd in that respect.  

This took him close to the spirit of relativism – in fact, he even espoused what he called a ‘relativism of distance’.

A man who once espoused Shirley might later espouse anything at all.  

The belief at the heart of Williams’s relativism of distance is that it doesn’t makes sense to assert the truth of one’s moral outlook across the entire span of human history.

Why not? Economists have a game theoretic view of morality and find evolutionarily stable strategies in the Animal Kingdom just as easily as in the entire span of human history. Williams had studied Latin instead of Math and thus was out of the loop.  

He would have supported the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, for example, but at the same time questioned the value and wisdom of mentally applying it to warrior cultures thousands of years in the past.

Why not? The fact is those 'warrior cultures' which turned into stable Empires promoting long distance trade and cultural exchange tended to have a 'homonoia' of a universalistic type. Even if they did go in for enslavement and resettlement of populations for economic or strategic reasons, they did promote a universal ethics for some favoured classes and these rights and entitlements could be broadened and deepened to catalyse economic growth and technological progress.  

There was no need, Williams urged, for a ‘relativistic vow of silence about the past’ but on the other hand, ‘comments about it are not obligatory, either.’

Previously, English people thought they had a duty to condemn atrocities committed by the ancient Aztecs. This cut into their working time. Williams revealed they could just go ahead and fix the fucking toilet rather than gas on about the Mayas and the Manchus and so forth.  

Writing in The New York Review in 1998, Williams gave memorable expression to these ideas and sentiments:
Must I think of myself as visiting in judgment all the reaches of history?

If that's what gets you hard- why not?  

Of course, one can imagine oneself as Kant at the Court of King Arthur, disapproving of its injustices, but exactly what grip does this get on one’s ethical thought?

Not to mention your cock. Fuck. I just did. Kant would have been so not amused.  

Immanuel Kant, the 18th-century moral philosopher, believed that everyone knew the same universal moral law, so that it was always intelligible to appeal to its presence.

Which is why nobody wanks.  

Williams, for the most part, thinks that what makes ethical sense is more culturally limited.

Not if you take a game theoretic view of the evolution of morality.  

When we look inside, what we find is not the moral law, but our historically formed identity.

When I look inside I tend to find Beyonce except she has gotten fat and has become quite morose. Also, for some reason, she speaks only Telugu. Fuck. I've just realized, I subscribed to a Telugu channel by mistake. 

The danger with an acute feel for history is that you can end up trapped in a relativist bubble.

Not if your acute feel is expressed by finding a good structural causal model and finding proxies for econometric testing. 

Just watching 'I Claudius' on TV and saying 'incest became fashionable coz the Pharaohs were into it' doesn't make you a fucking historian. 

But if Williams shared the relativist’s sense of the culturally rooted nature of ethical life,

which it obviously isn't. Ethical personalities tend to rise above their cultural roots. For example, in traditional Tamil culture, people seldom give access to their farts to all and sundry. I am considered a Mahatma for my generosity in this respect. Indeed, I was encouraged to settle in the West so as to share this great ethical resource with the spiritually impoverished denizens of affluent societies. 

he also wanted to incorporate into his moral philosophy the kind of critical tools that mean you don’t have to accept the worst things associated with moral relativism:

like what? Being raped and beheaded by Hamas? 

either that ‘anything goes’, or that societies can’t assess and evaluate each other, or that you must accept the status quo in your own society.

Assessing and evaluation is stuff auditors and Stock Analysts and Doctors and Engineers and other such professionals get paid for doing. There is little point doing so oneself. As for the status quo in our Society, we are welcome to seek to change it by voting for a political party with the ability to change things for the better. In England, this meant voting for Thatcher, not Shirley.  


Williams’s great late work Truth and Truthfulness (2002) celebrated the virtues associated with the pursuit of truth.

How novel! Most philosophers think Truth is totes overrated. I heard it tried to feel up Sincerity behind the bike shed. 

There is no objective and universal morality, according to Williams,

But there may be a non-arbitrary game theoretic structural causal model of its evolution a la Binmore.  

but moral philosophy could still draw on the fact that some truths, like the shape of the planet, are objective and universal.

Because we have a good Structural Causal Model which also generates lots of useful tech like GPS location.  

If a moral outlook depends on blatant falsehoods, then it can be undermined by revealing the truth.

Sadly, this isn't true at all. We hint that you are a bougie CIA agent in the pay of the Lizard People from Planet X.  

To reject the claims of climate-change denial, for instance, you don’t have to debate whether there is an objective truth about morality. It’s enough to know that there is an objective truth about the effects of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, what has happened to global annual temperature since the Industrial Revolution, and so on.

But this isn't why we reject or accept claims. What matters to us is our disposable income. We don't want to pay a lot more in tax or to be unable to pay inflated utility bills.  

Williams had little time for the idea, associated with postmodernism, that all of reality is a cultural construction.

Which is cool if you want to get a PhD in Grievance Studies.  

Humans have dramatically reshaped the Earth but they didn’t create the planet they live on.

But, according to the Anthropic Principle, the Universe is the way it is because it is the only way we could be in it. Anyway, it may turn out that the Universe is a hologram.  

Ethical reality is constructed via interaction with ‘an already existing physical world’ that is not a cultural product.

Cats interact with an already existing physical world as do electrons. Do they have ethical realities of their own?  

He tussled on numerous occasions with the American philosopher Richard Rorty, who, in the latter decades of the 20th century, became a kind of cultural figurehead for postmodernism in the academy. In fact, when I was a doctoral student at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, I spoke to Rorty about the contrast between his ideas and those of Williams. ‘Yes,’ Rorty said, Williams’s view chimed more with common sense but, as Rorty unforgettably concluded, ‘I want to change common sense!’

Then he died. Sad.  

Like Rorty, however, Williams did emphasise the culturally constructed nature of ethical life.

Because he didn't know Math. 

Influenced by the 19th-century thinker Friedrich Nietzsche, Williams became particularly interested in conceptual genealogy as a method in philosophy.

But philosophy is useless. The Mathematics genealogy project is useful. 

What this means, in a nutshell, is that you can trace the origin and development of a concept or idea – liberty, for instance – to see whether the resulting narrative encourages use of the concept in question or whether it debunks it.

Sadly Begriffsgeschichte is misleading when it is not actively mischievous. Hohfeldian analysis and insights from Mechanism Design enable us to understand what is Liberty and how to have a virtuous circle whereby more of it is available to more and more people. 

A concept’s history helps you understand whether you want to be part of the conceptual tribe that uses it

Don't be a member of a useless tribe. Learn Math or practice Law or become a Doctor or set up a business.  Philosophers still have not found out a way to gain enlightenment from my farts. 

Think about this in relation to culture wars debates over love and sexuality. Not everyone will want to avoid, like Rooney’s character Frances, traditional concepts connected to romance.

Because they want sex not Lurve.  

But conceptual genealogy invites you to reflect on the history of a word or concept such as ‘girlfriend’ and decide whether you want to continue to employ it.

What is the genealogy of girlfriend? Used by a woman if just meant a friend who was female. In Rooney's novel it means a particular type of Lesbian relationship. But there is no deep history here. 

You might come to decide that, as Oscar Wilde in 1895 said about blasphemy, it ‘is not a word of mine.’

Yet he converted to Catholicism before he died.  

Many ideas associated with love, in particular marriage, have historically had very little to do with romance.

And romance, historically, had very little to do with marriage. The 'midons' of the Provencal poet or the 'Courts of Love' involved a spiritualized devotion to a woman married to some other nobleman.  

As Stephanie Coontz’s work Marriage: A History (2005) illustrates, ‘most societies around the world saw marriage as far too vital an economic and political institution’ to be based on love.

They also saw that love was vital for the success of a marriage. It often happened that parents made good choices for their children. Equally many 'love marriages' soon ran short of that commodity.  

That’s a much more recent idea. Understanding the history of a concept helps you understand whether you want to be part of the way of life – call it the conceptual tribe – that uses it.

We all belong to actual races, religions, ethnicities and genders. A conceptual history of my gender may cause me to want to become something less horrible.  

Sometimes, joining an institution involves modifying its concepts for the better, as in the case of gay and lesbian marriage.

How does this improve the concept? On the other hand, it must be said, Indian Princes were notorious for spending vast sums on the marriages of their cats and dogs. No doubt, this improved the concept of marriage for their starving subjects.  

Truthfulness can be bracing, especially when focused on abuse of power.

Very true, when the Head Master sodomizes you you should truthfully tell him he has a needle dick.  

Williams drew on the tradition of philosophy known as critical theory,

which came into existence to try to explain why people kept running away for Communist Utopias. The answer was that people had been brainwashed to think that dying in a Gulag wasn't as delightful as a trip to Disneyland.  

which stresses the examination and criticism of social structures.

It is a type of gaslighting like the guy who sidled up to you at the Fresher's Fair and tried to convince you that you were Gay and wanted to suck him off. Sadly, you were to stupid to understand that fellatio does not involve punching a person repeatedly.  

He writes:
[I]f one comes to know that the sole reason one accepts some moral claim is that somebody’s power has brought it about that one accepts it [and it is] in their interest that one should accept it [then] one will have no reason to go on accepting it.

This is obviously false. Mummy got me to accept that toilet training might be something I would benefit from. This was clearly in her interest. But though I left home many decades ago, I am not incessantly shitting the bed. Williams, obviously, may have taken a different course. 

No doubt one of Williams’s most admirable and enduring qualities was his desire to make philosophical room for inconvenient truths

like what? Mummy was right to wean and toilet train us?  

and the potentially startling clarity of speaking truth to power.

People with power pay good money to get smart people to speak truthfully to them so that they can keep the power they have or gain more of it. 

Why go up to a powerful person and tell him some useful truth without charging him for it?  


Williams argued that all human societies have a need for basic notions of accuracy and sincerity: the traits that combine to form the virtue of truthfulness.

All human societies have a need for immortality because we don't Mummy to die- ever. That is why we gain the virtue of being immortal. Also we can fart out rainbows.  

This introduced an element of universalism into his worldview.

But that element of universalism drank all the sherry and pissed on the sofa. Also it grabbed Shirley's boobs.  

However, while the need for truthfulness is universal, Williams again made clear that different cultures have and will build differently on the need. He ends Truth and Truthfulness with the hope that the more ‘courageous, intransigent, and socially effective forms’ of the virtues associated with truth will live on.

Very good of him, I'm sure. Sadly he was unable to write the sequel 'Niceness vs. Naughtiness' where he expressed the hope that Niceness would live on while Naughtiness was welcome to get AIDS and die horribly.  

It’s fair to say, strange as it sounds, that Williams’s defence of truth and truthfulness was an unfashionable undertaking in the humanities at the time.

The 'humanities' had turned into sub-humanities. If you weren't a paranoid nut-job you looked out of place. 

He was prescient, writing at the end of his life and at the turn of the millennium, about the various forms of truth denial that would emerge (or re-emerge) in the 21st century. Think of how the age of the internet, of which he saw only the beginning, would make Holocaust denial common again.

in Humanities Departments?  

Indeed, in a passage now widely shared online, he wrote about how the internet ‘makes it easy for large numbers of previously isolated extremists to find each other and talk only among themselves.’

Actually, it makes it even easier for isolated extremists like myself to watch porn instead of talking to like-minded nutcases.  

Moral criticism must often take the form of making the plain truth widely known.

Which is why before you criticize my morality, you should come clean about the fact that you have a tiny penis. Also your sister is a slut.  

But what if some arguments do ultimately come down to disagreements over values?

Then put a cash value to them. 'Transferable utility' is the relevant solution concept. I value my time spent wistfully farting. You value time I devote to doing your taxes. You pay me a small sum and I do your taxes before resuming my practice of wistful farting.  

Perhaps disputes over climate change, for example, go much deeper than familiarity with the relevant science can remedy.

These disputes end when we figure out that paying more in tax today may end up making us wealthier because there are tax-breaks for investing in green energy start ups.  

Williams says little about rational argument over values themselves, perhaps limited by his

ignorance of mathematical economics 

worldview according to which principles ‘do not admit of any ultimate justification’ (as Korsgaard puts it).

Sure they do. The fact is principles tend to be rather wishy washy and will admit to anything if you ply them with drink.  

Williams also expressed a worldly scepticism about what moral arguments can be expected to achieve. ‘What will the professor’s justification do,’ he wrote, ‘when they break down the door, smash his spectacles, take him away?’

If the professor was doing something useful, it would have been in the interest of the State to kill nay hooligans who messed with him.  

Williams’s work manifested the tension that one sees in the larger culture wars over values: between the desire to acknowledge what seem like universal and indisputable evils, and the desire to leave behind the legacy of universalism.

Why do useless people think they have to acknowledge that genocide is bad? Is it because they are just as stupid as they are useless.  

He did, for instance in a book chapter titled ‘Human Rights and Relativism’, suggest that there are some very basic moral wrongs that almost all human beings recognise, even if elsewhere in his work he adamantly rejected the idea of a universal Moral Law.

We may do wrong things to serve a righteous cause. These are trade-offs of an economic type.  

Compare his outlook with that of the moral philosopher Derek Parfit, his longtime Oxford colleague. Parfit really did believe that ethical facts are as objective and universal as facts about the shape of the Earth, and searched for moral arguments that would convince everyone.

He failed. He was a deeply silly man.  

In Shame and Necessity (1993), Williams argued, in contrast, that it makes more sense to pursue ‘social and political honesty’ than a ‘rationalistic metaphysics of morality’.

Both were useless. Still if you are paid to talk stupid shite, that is what you are obliged to do.  

If Williams had little time for Rorty’s postmodernism writ large, he also did not share Parfit’s hope (now associated with the Effective Altruism movement)

which is now associated with Fraud.  

that the study of ethics could become transformed into a science of morality, which would then be applied to solve the world’s problems.

by enriching Sam Bankman-Fried and his family- right?  

Truthfulness, conceptual genealogy, comparative ethical study: these ingredients give Williams’s philosophy of value its critical bite.

He bit at air. Economics matters. It is ethical to do more with less. It isn't ethical to talk useless shite. But Econ is mathsy. Any nutter can spout Ethical shite.  

There are many resources left for ethical and political criticism after moral philosophy fully emerges from what Williams called ‘the shadow of universalism’ – or so he endeavoured to show.

What you do with resources is the subject of Economics.  

His aim was to hold on to the vital distinction between what is and what ought to be while maintaining that norms about what ought to be are themselves ultimately cultural creations.

In which case, you should concentrate on changing culture by writing wonderful novels- like J.K Rowling- or making bingeworthy Netflix series about homosexual werewolves and lesbian witches.  

His position, in this respect, is akin to the view that human beings create the norms about what counts as good and bad art rather than discover mind-independent and timeless truths about beauty.

Art creates norms- that is true enough. Sadly, those norms may not be realistic. I developed an eating disorder because I wanted to win the Miss Teenage Tamil Nadu beauty contest. Thankfully, my Doctor explained to me that I needed to take the pizza out of the pizza box before eating it. Cardboard is not easily digestible.  

Williams never thought that moral philosophy could make ethical life any easier than it is.

Moral philosophy is stupid shit. A game theoretical approach need not be if done by a smart dude.  

Nonetheless, he offers a vision of how philosophy, allied with other disciplines such as history, can provide both criticism and support for one’s ethical orientation in the world.

Yet, it is a matter of common observance that those with a genuine 'ethical orientation in the world' didn't go to Collidge or, if they did, they studied STEM subjects.  

And in his engagement with moral relativism, he doesn’t just point to a middle way between his contemporaries Richard Rorty and Derek Parfit.

Both of whom were useless though Rorty wrote well 

He offers an example of how to make one’s way through the culture wars.

Why make your way through them. Just tell any Social Justice warrior you meet that you know they are controlling the neighbour's cat with mind-rays. They will give you a wide berth. 

Monday, 3 April 2023

Nagel's nonsensical Moral Luck

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy introduces its article on 'Moral Luck' as follows- 

Moral luck occurs when an agent can be correctly treated as an object of moral judgment despite the fact that a significant aspect of what she is assessed for depends on factors beyond her control.

If there is a set of protocols by which an agent assesses another agent as having or lacking some property, the question arises as to whether that quality could also be predicated of the assessing agent. For example we might say 'only cool dudes can correctly say so and so is cool' or 'only a toff can recognize another toff'.  The advantage here is that there can be a chain of certification and, given a meta-protocol of an arbitrary type, a class can be defined. Indeed it may be a partially ordered set. 

One thing one might say is- 'it is only correct to assess another as having moral luck if you have moral luck'. But this is a bit like 'only the judgmental can say who is truly judgmental' or 'only moral philosophers can correctly identify other moral philosophers' or 'only blathershites can correctly identify other blathershites so blathershiterry can flourish.' 

Does it matter whether the property- e.g. that of having moral luck or being a blathershite- is or is not under the agent's control? Not really. After all, the fact of being or ceasing to be an agent is not- generally speaking- under any agent's control which is why many people who don't want to die nevertheless do so whereas my daughter, the secret-agent super-model, doesn't exist. 

Put this way, we see that though 'moral luck' is not necessarily meaningless, nevertheless it isn't particularly informative. It's just one of those things people sometimes say is all.

Bernard Williams writes, “when I first introduced the expression moral luck, I expected to suggest an oxymoron” 

Though anything at all could be said to be moral or be lucky or correspond to moral luck. But this is equally true of words like 'cool' and 'blathershite' and 'cool blathershite'.  

Indeed, immunity from luck has been thought by many to be part of the very essence of morality.

the irrelevance of luck, rather than immunity from it, is all that would be required.  One could say 'a person whose every act has been moral but who has never really been 'tested'- i.e put in a situation where he would have a strong reason to do something immoral- may not actually be moral. He has just been lucky and thus must abide our question. But, equally, we could give him the benefit of the doubt. 

And yet, as Williams (1976) and Thomas Nagel (1979) showed in their now classic pair of articles, it appears that our everyday judgments and practices commit us to the existence of moral luck.

Nonsense! Everyday stuff doesn't commit us to shit. Why not suggest that taking a dump commits us to evacuating blathershites if they become a pain in our arse?  

The problem of moral luck arises because we seem to be committed to the general principle that we are morally assessable only to the extent that what we are assessed for depends on factors under our control (call this the “Control Principle”).

This is an arbitrary assertion. There is no general principle here. There may be a specific qualification or exemption of an ideographic or pragmatic sort. Thus, as a general principle, I may agree that we should not employ very very thin models as part of our advertising campaign. However, we might make an exception for a model who comes from a part of the world where people tend to be exceptionally slender and gracile. The same is true of 'black-face' except when Rishi Sunak does it.  

At the same time, when it comes to countless particular cases, we morally assess agents for things that depend on factors that are not in their control.

Perhaps because we can't do otherwise. Not everything is under our control. However, we can tell moral philosophers to fuck off.

And making the situation still more problematic is the fact that a very natural line of reasoning suggests that it is impossible to morally assess anyone for anything if we adhere to the Control Principle

No. A thing may be possible though shitty. We can morally assess rocks or trees or anything else. It's just we might be shit-faced when doing so. Fuck you rock- you lazy sod! Get a fucking job

The idea that morality is immune from luck finds inspiration in Kant:

No. A thing may be independent of another thing but not always wholly immune to it. Kant was actually quite careful not to deviate too far from 'common sense'- which was a Scottish school of philosophy back then.

'A good will is not good because of what it effects or accomplishes, because of its fitness to attain some proposed end, but only because of its volition, that is, it is good in itself…

That follows from the concept or definition of 'will' as relating to things within an agent's power 

Even if, by a special disfavor of fortune or by the niggardly provision of a step motherly nature, this will should wholly lack the capacity to carry out its purpose—if with its greatest efforts it should yet achieve nothing and only the good will were left (not, of course, as a mere wish but as the summoning of all means insofar as they are in our control)—then, like a jewel, it would still shine by itself, as something that has its full worth in itself. Usefulness or fruitlessness can neither add anything to this worth nor take anything away from it (Kant 1784 [1998], 4:394).

What's wrong with that? One can define height as being independent of width even if nothing with height lacks width.  


Thomas Nagel approvingly cites this passage in the opening of his 1979 article, “Moral Luck.” Nagel’s article began as a reply to Williams’ paper of the same name, and the two articles together articulated in a new and powerful way

if by 'new and powerful' you mean 'obviously foolish' then, sure.  

a challenge for anyone wishing to defend the Kantian idea that an important aspect of morality is immune from luck, or independent of what is outside of our control.

The way you defend an idea is by pointing to concrete examples of it or showing how it inspired useful actions or scientific breakthroughs.  


To see exactly how the challenge arises, let us begin with the Control Principle:
(CP) We are morally assessable only to the extent that what we are assessed for depends on factors under our control.

This begs the question. Are we morally assessable? Speaking generally, no. You wouldn't let a moral assessor into your house or place of business. If I start morally assessing you, you tend to punch me in the face or tell me to fuck the fuck off. 

True, if there is a morals clause in our contract or something of that sort, we may be subject to some protocol bound assessment. But that is juristic in nature or an ideographic matter. 

It is intuitively compelling, as is the following corollary of it:
(CP-Corollary) Two people ought not to be morally assessed differently if the only other differences between them are due to factors beyond their control

Thus, if it is beyond your control that you are in a coma you should be judged as morally responsible  as the guy who is going around stabbing people. 

Not only are the Control Principle and its corollary plausible in themselves, they also seem to find support in our reactions to particular cases. For example, if we find out that a woman who has just stepped on your toes was simply pushed, then our temptation to blame her is likely to evaporate.

We won't blame her even if she wasn't pushed. She is unlikely to have done the thing deliberately. 

It seems that the reason for this is our unwillingness to hold someone responsible for what is not in her control. Similarly, if two drivers have taken all precautions, and are abiding by all the rules of the road, and in one case, a dog runs in front of the car and is killed, and not in the other, then, given that the dog’s running out was not something over which either driver had control, it seems that we are reluctant to blame one driver more than the other. Although we might expect different reactions from the two drivers, it does not seem that one is deserving of a worse moral assessment than the other.

What the other driver did is irrelevant. Either dog killer couldn't help it or he could have avoided running over the bow wow.


At the same time, it seems that there are countless cases in which the objects of our moral assessments do depend on factors beyond agents’ control. Even though “moral luck” seems to be an oxymoron, everyday judgments suggest that there is a phenomenon of moral luck after all.

Everyday judgments don't suggest shit.  

As Nagel defines it, “Where a significant aspect of what someone does depends on factors beyond his control,

he does not exist. Stuff you do is defined as stuff you have control over. If you are doing stuff you have no control over you might be a character in a Stephen King novel. But you don't actually exist.  

yet we continue to treat him in that respect as an object of moral judgment, it can be called moral luck” (Nagel 1979, 59).

It doesn't greatly matter what you call incompossible objects. They don't fucking exist.

To bring out the conflict with the Control Principle even more starkly, we will understand moral luck as follows:
(ML) moral luck occurs when an agent can be correctly treated as an object of moral judgment, despite the fact that a significant aspect of what he is assessed for depends on factors beyond his control.

So moral luck only arises in the case of imaginary beings. But such characters may also have shadows made of light and combovers fashioned from frozen tendrils of Time.  

We certainly seem to be committed to the existence of moral luck. For example, we seem to blame those who have murdered more than we blame those who have merely attempted murder,

Fuck off! We blame those who attempt to murder us much more than those who sliced and diced a bunch of serial killers.  

even if the reason for the lack of success in the second case is that the intended victim unexpectedly tripped and fell to the floor just as the bullet arrived at head-height.

Fuck off! A guy who shoots at me is a guy I want to see beaten to death or fed to the wolves. On the other hand, if serving on a jury, I might feel that the 'retribution' portion of the punishment should be less in a case where the victim only suffered a little bruising.  

Since whether the intended victim tripped or not is not something in control of either would-be murderer, we appear to violate the Control Principle and its corollary.

No we don't. On the other hand we may sometimes appear to violate the Don't Masturbate Principle. This is merely a delusive appearance. 

It might be tempting to respond at this point that what people are really responsible for are their intentions or their “willings,” and that we are thus wrong to offer different moral assessments in this pair of cases. Adam Smith (1790/1976), for example, advocates this position, writing that
'To the intention or affection of the heart, therefore, to the propriety and impropriety, to the beneficence or hurtfulness of the design, all praise or blame, all approbation or disapprobation, of any kind, which can justly be bestowed upon any action, must ultimately belong. (II.iii.intro.3.)'

But 'justly' does not mean the same thing as 'correctly' and that to which things 'ultimately' belong may be very different to what they belong to at other points in time. Thus an accountant who prepares the books correctly may not being doing justice to the company because 'book values' understate asset worth. Ultimately everything should be 'marked to market'. But no impropriety has occurred. Evidence which is true is not necessarily admissible for the purpose of justice and what ultimately matters is very different from what must continue to matter on a quotidian basis.

There is a certain discretionary 'economia' in these matters which can't be reduced to algorithmic, bright-line, 'akreibia' of a type which aims at greater precision than the subject matter permits. 


This is a tempting response, and others have followed Smith in defending something like it (e.g., Khoury 2019). But it faces difficulties of its own. First, as we will see, the would-be murderers offer only one of many cases in which our intuitive moral judgment appears to depend on “results” beyond one’s intentions, as Smith himself noted (II.iii.intro.5).

This poses no great scandal. At any given moment, our judgments or assessments may be 'factorizable' into different components- e.g. a retributive component which is 'consequentialist', a moral component which is 'deontological', a strategic component which has to do with Aumann public signals or something yet more arcane. 

And even more importantly, luck can affect even our “willings” and other internal states (Feinberg 1970, 34–38).

But 'willings' and 'other internal states' are not well defined. They can't be the subject of any functional relationship save by arbitrary stipulation. This statement has no 'informativity' though, no doubt, for any practical purpose some empirical investigation may throw light on why a particular person made that statement or why it does or doesn't matter very much. Here, 'luck'- e.g. why one person's arbitrary stipulation regarding a particular matter diverges from another's- features as part of the information theoretic 'background' of each. But it doesn't itself affect anything being spoken of. 

This is like the 'schmeidentity' argument of Kripke. Some may know Cicero is Tully. For others, it is a discovery. But nothing about identity is affected.  

As Nagel develops the point, there are other types of luck that affect not only our actions but also every intention we form and every exertion of our wills.

Only by arbitrary stipulation as to what 'affects' means and what 'luck' means and what 'intention' means and so forth. We don't know if there is an informational content to the claim. Indeed, we don't know if there is a claim or what it is. There is no well-defined set or functional relationship here. There may be, after some investigation, but only for some particular purpose.  

Further, once these kinds of luck are recognized, we will see that not one of the factors on which agents’ actions depend is immune to luck.

No. We will see that there is nothing here but a series of arbitrary and increasingly fatuous stipulations which supposedly represent 'what most people think'. 

Nagel identifies four kinds of luck in all: resultant, circumstantial, constitutive, and causal.

This is arbitrary. Anything at all can be predicated of luck. Instead of 'resultant', we might equally say 'residuary'. Instead of 'circumstantial' why not 'circumcised'. How do we know that some sorts of luck haven't had their foreskin snipped off? Also, it not the case that some types of constitutive luck are suffering from constipation which is why causal luck often complains of having to share an office with that flatulent cunt? 

Resultant Luck. Resultant luck is luck in the way things turn out.

The way things out depends on how different opposing types of luck cancel out leaving residuary luck. But this sort of statement adds nothing to our information set. It is mere arbitrary stipulation made, it maybe, in the hope of sounding smart.  

Examples include the pair of would-be murderers just mentioned as well as the pair of innocent drivers described above. In both cases, each member of the pair has exactly the same intentions, has made the same plans, and so on, but things turn out very differently and so both are subject to resultant luck.

This is an arbitrary assertion. It may be plausible enough in some particular context but it won't hold in general. The 'unlucky' driver who actually loves dogs and is feeling traumatized about ever getting behind the wheel is happy to learn that there is a specialist driving course he can take and a special type of car he can buy such that 'bad luck' will never cause him to drive over a bow wow again. 

What is 'luck' at one level of granularity is an engineering or other such problem at another.  

If in either case, we can correctly offer different moral assessments for each member of the pair, then we have a case of resultant moral luck.

No we don't. All we can say is if 'correctly' means 'in accordance with relevant protocols and if different assessments obtain then there is a stochastic aspect to the relevant process- at least from some possible perspective. That may be a 'feature' not a 'bug'. Equally, it may represent a trade-off or Nash mixed strategy. Something like Kuhn's 'no neutral algorithm' argument applies- improving mechanism design has one type of result. Improving the information set has another. There is no 'natural' or 'canonical' path forward which all stakeholders would agree on. 

Williams offers a case of “decision under uncertainty”: a somewhat fictionalized Gauguin, who chooses a life of painting in Tahiti over a life with his family, not knowing whether he will be a great painter. In one scenario, he goes on to become a great painter, and in another, he fails. According to Williams, we will judge Gauguin differently depending on the outcome.

No. We judge Gaugin the same way we'd judge a guy who quit being an actuary in Paris to go be a ship's chandler in Polynesia. We might say 'he was a bad man to abandon his family' or 'he was a cool dude he followed his bliss'. Also, the vast majority of proles like me think 'modern art' is shite invented by clever art-dealers who get the nouveau riche to hang childish daubs on their walls.  When I win the lottery, I'm gonna have a toilet made of solid gold in every room same as wot Trump & the Queen Gor' bless 'er have.

Cases of negligence provide another important kind of resultant luck. Imagine that two otherwise conscientious people have forgotten to have their brakes checked recently and experience brake failure, but only one of whom finds a child in the path of his car. If in any of these cases we correctly offer differential moral assessments, then again we have cases of resultant moral luck.

So, 'resultant moral luck' only arises out of 'differential moral assessment'- i.e. it has no functional relationship with the underlying act or event. The thing is an artefact. It is arbitrary. We don't say 'OJ Simpson was innocent. He bears no moral guilt'. We merely say 'OJ was correctly found 'not guilty' coz of some legal technicality. Morally, he was as guilty as fuck.' We also nod our head when some other barfly says 'Had OJ been tried in Louisiana, he'd have been found guilty. That's coz Louisiana inherits features of the French legal code. California, by contrast, has a legal code based on surfer dudes getting high and hanging ten.'  


Circumstantial luck.

A circumstance either arises from a stochastic process- in which case we can speak of luck- or there is a deterministic process. Nagel, with great stupidity, speaks of the latter as involving luck. The man was a cretin.  

Circumstantial luck is luck in the circumstances in which one finds oneself.

Why find oneself in shit? Why not take the path of Good Soldier Svejk? Even the Gods battle in vain against stupidity.  

For example, consider Nazi collaborators in 1930s Germany who are condemned for committing morally atrocious acts, even though their very presence in Nazi Germany was due to factors beyond their control (Nagel 1979).

Being German is a good enough reason to present as being as stupid as shit. Nobody wants an utter cretin as a collaborator- except in the Philosophy faculty.  

Had those very people been transferred by the companies for which they worked to Argentina in 1929, perhaps they would have led exemplary lives.

The same is true if they had turned into pussy cats or potted plants.  

If we correctly morally assess the Nazi collaborators differently from their imaginary counterparts in Argentina, then we have a case of circumstantial moral luck.

No we don't. We just have a protocol bound system of moral assessment which nobody connected to Argentina, but not Nazi Germany, need bother with. The fact is the latter country was defeated and occupied. The former country wasn't. But luck had nothing to do with either outcome.  


Constitutive luck. Constitutive luck is luck in who one is, or in the traits and dispositions that one has.

This is largely deterministic. It is not a matter of luck that my biological dad is my legal dad. Mum wasn't a slut.  

Since our genes, care-givers, peers, and other environmental influences all contribute to making us who we are (and since we have no control over these) it seems that who we are is at least largely a matter of luck.

No. It is largely deterministic. Why not say 'it is largely a matter of luck that urine comes out of my penis. It could quite easily be Champagne. Anyway, losing my job as sommelier was undoubtedly bad luck though, no doubt, I ought not to have refilled the Duchess's champagne flute with my pee pee.' 

Since how we act is partly a function of who we are,

Nope. Who we are is not 'well defined'. There is no function here because there is no unique representation as a graph.  

the existence of constitutive luck entails that what actions we perform depends on luck, too.

No. Nothing 'depends' on what is merely a term for a naive set of stochastic outcomes. To say 'everything depends on luck' is uninformative. One might just as easily say 'everything is predetermined by an inscrutable and malicious demiurge'. 

For example, if we correctly blame someone for being cowardly or self-righteous or selfish, when his being so depends on factors beyond his control, then we have a case of constitutive moral luck.

No we don't. We have an arbitrary claim no more meaningful than the assertion that the Great God Fuck You has been at work again.  

Further, if a person acts on one of these very character traits over which he lacks control by, say, running away instead of helping to save his child, and we correctly blame him for so acting, then we also have a case of constitutive moral luck.

No. We have a case of a trait being proclaimed blameworthy. One may say this was also a case of bad luck or a case of the manifest malice of the Great God Fuck you- but these are not assessments. Even if part of a judgment, they are not 'ratio'. They are 'obiter dicta'. 

Thus, since both actions and agents are objects of moral assessment, constitutive moral luck undermines the Control Principle when it comes to the assessment of both actions and agents.

There is no such Principle to be undermined. Also, everybody knows 'assessments' are shit. Bureaucrats invent the things so as to prevent anything get done.  


Causal luck. Finally, there is causal luck, or luck in “how one is determined by antecedent circumstances” (Nagel 1979, 60).

if luck is determined by something it isn't luck. Why not speak of heat as being determined by antecedent coldness?

Nagel points out that the appearance of causal moral luck is essentially the classic problem of free will.

We might call this 'old wine in new bottles' if we hadn't seen, with our own mind's eye, Nagel whipping out his dick to refill the Dean's champagne flute with his own frothing piss.  Meanwhile Williams was contributing to the feast of reason and flow of soul by providing everybody with the chocolate pudding which he had made in his pants.

The problem of free will to which Nagel refers arises because it seems that our actions—and even the “stripped-down acts of the will”—are consequences of what is not in our control.

So this problem only arises because of an arbitrary stipulation. Similarly if I stipulate that every time you take a piss, you are refilling Putin's champagne flute than the question arises as to whether you are 'sanctions busting' or 'providing material comfort to the enemy' who, by another arbitrary stipulation, is the neighbor's cat whose Nicraraguan horcrux stripped down acts of will and then made fun of its puny genitals. 

Anybody can talk nonsense. You don't have to be a Philosophy Professor.  

If this is so, then neither our actions nor our willing are free.

save in so far as actions are neither willings nor billings and no freedom is save that of self-sodomy on a rainy Tuesday afternoon in Margate.  

And since freedom is often thought to be necessary for moral responsibility,

Nonsense! A slave or a prisoner is still morally responsible though not legally so. 

we cannot be morally responsible even for our willings.

If something is 'often thought' no ethical proposition is entailed. Cats are often thought to say 'miaow' but they don't really. They make various noises which different languages name differently. 

It is a different matter to say that a responsibility exists though no means to discharge it obtain. This mayy arise by an arbitrary 'uncorrelated asymmetry'. Thus if it is the case that I am the father of a child in a distant country, I feel morally responsible for him even if I have no means of ascertaining his identity or location. The law may acknowledge this. Thus this son of mine may have a claim against me, or assets held in trust for me, or my estate even if I am not capable of discharging any sort of duty. 

Sometimes the problem is thought to arise only if determinism is true, but this is not the case.

The problem only arises if we believe that things which are 'often thought' entail any proposition whatsoever. But we'd have bigger problems with avoiding stepping under ladders and being careful not to break mirrors and refraining from touching our no-no place lest we go blind.  

Even if it turns out that determinism is false, but events are still caused by prior events according to probabilistic laws,

that is determinism.

the way that one is caused to act by antecedent circumstances would seem to be equally outside of one’s control (e.g., Pereboom 2002, 41–54, Watson 1982, 9).

if Darwin was right, then our continued survival is about expanding the sphere of what is in our control. Assessing stuff may play some small part in this but, precisely because the thing is utile, or has survival value, it isn't philosophical. 

Interestingly, assuming a moral responsibility for another even in an area where one has no control over oneself can have a beneficial outcome. In A.A there are 'ascending chains' involving sponsors, perhaps even sponsors of sponsors, but, I imagine people who take responsibility for each other on the basis of mutuality can regain autonomy or free themselves of addictions or conditioned patterns of behavior. 

In this context, Tyche (Luck) and Kairos (Timeliness) may indeed play a part. But they are aspects of the comedy of mutuality. This has nothing to do with any Physicalist configuration space. Indeed, there could be backward causation and a totally weird metric. Still, for any particular juristic process, a partition can be imposed such that agency is well defined- even it is notional in some respects. But this is arbitrary save from some utilitarian perspective.

 As Nagel puts it, “[t]he area of genuine agency, and therefore of legitimate moral judgment, seems to shrink under this scrutiny to an extensionless point” (1979, 66.) He goes on,

Here 'genuineness' means 'naturality' or non-arbitrariness.  

'I believe that in a sense the problem has no solution, because something in the idea of agency is incompatible with actions being events, or people being things.'

but many things in that do have that compatibility. It's just that there is never anything in any concept which is compatible with its every possible use. 

But as the external determinants of what someone has done are gradually exposed, in their effect on consequences, character, and choice itself, it becomes gradually clear that actions are events and people things.

Nope. It will turn out that the configuration space is radically non physicalistic and features backward causation and a totes weird metric 

Eventually nothing remains which can be ascribed to the responsible self, and we are left with nothing but a portion of the larger sequence of events, which can be deplored or celebrated, but not blamed or praised (1979, 68).

This is like saying 'if you get a lump of marble and start chipping away at it, you will eventually be left with nothing even if you are Michelangelo and what you end up with is the La Pieta.' True, if Mikey had been terrified he'd be blamed for stopping short of perfection he might indeed have stubbled away that marble to nothing. But then he wouldn't be remembered as a great sculptor. Indeed, he would have been known as a guy you need to keep well away from any nice piece of marble. Still, there may be a useless or foolish type of art criticism- perhaps one connected to Grievance Studies- which shits on great artists for their moral luck in being born with penises at particular times in history and which has nothing to say about the aesthetic choices underlying the creation of their masterpieces.